Mormons and Beards and Bigfoot Oh My! Provo Canyon Footage

If you have not seen the Provo Canyon Bigfoot video uploaded by Youtube user Beard Card yet, well first, where have you been? It has been an internet and media sensation since it was released on October 30th. The footage allegedly shows a short clip of a Bigfoot standing up from a squating position. Immediately the videographer and his/her companions take off running. I must admit when I first saw this video it looked rather compelling and I had high hopes that it was the real deal. Upon further research it appears however that it indeed may not be all it seems.

Whats in a name?
The one thing that stood out to me was the username of the uploader, Beard Card. In my research it has occurred to me that most internet users use the same username over several sites, it makes it a lot easier to remember log in information. I did some research on the username Beard Card and found that the only occurrence of this username appears on that one Youtube channel and does not seem to appear anywhere else on the internet. Red Flag in my opinion. When the video first appeared on the 30th it was the only video on their channel and all the subsequent videos added since then are enhanced, slowed down or news coverage of the original. Red Flag again.

So where does the username Beard Card come from any way? And what does it mean?

Enter the Mormons and the Beards
Upon a further search I found the term beard card. Beard card is a very specific term and is used only one place that I am able to find. On the campus of Brigham Young University. At BYU male students are prohibited from growing a beard. A student may get an exemption from this rule for medical or religious purposes, this exemption is  referred to by the students as a beard card. BYU happens to be located in Provo, Utah and approximately 4 miles or so from Squaw Peak where this video was allegedly filmed.


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So I think it is now safe to assume that whomever the filmer of this video is, with near 100% certainty has ties to BYU. Perhaps a current student or former student. It is also safe to say that the filmer lives in or near Provo.

Did we find the videographer?
Further in my research I came across the domain name BeardCard.com. BeardCard.com is the brainchild of Lorne Sleem. According to this article  http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/central/provo/byu-student-changing-the-meaning-of-the-beard-card/article_7acb613f-16aa-574e-afb0-3686be411a5d.html

"Lorne Sleem grew up in Manchester, England, where he was required to wear school uniforms and as a result expressed his personal sense of style through his facial hair. At BYU Sleem has to keep his face clean shaven.
So he started a business creating multiple beard looks and selling them on different colored T-shirts for students to wear."


 My first thought immediately turned to Mr. Sleem as the person behind the video. I contacted Lorne through his email and he responded. He says it was not him but it certainly has been a boon for his T-Shirt website.

"Hi Steve.

Sorry I am not the creator of the youtube video. It's just a coincidence that whoever made that video named their profile name Beard Card. It's been good advertising though for me, but I have nothing to do with that video. Sorry.

Lorne."

Although Mr. Sleem says he is not responsible for the video he is from Provo and is a graduate of BYU. He works in advertising. Go check out his site, even though the shirts are directed at BYU students, they are rather cool.

Further evidence points to a BYU connection

On Friday the 2nd of November, someone was passing out fliers on the BYU campus announcing the Bigfoot video. Each flier had the bottom left corner torn off according to this article: http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/central/provo/bigfoot-near-squaw-peak-video-of-mysterious-creature-goes-viral/article_4df99b1e-6beb-599c-ad82-faedf45efb69.html?comment_form=true#comments

"By Monday evening, the video had more than 3 million views, with comments offering explanations, criticism and a variety of typical Internet vitriol. Fliers announcing the encounter appeared on the south end of BYU campus on Friday. Mysteriously, the bottom left corner of the fliers was torn away."

I spoke with Steven Streufert on this subject and he said:

"Fascinating. The clue we need is in that little corner of the paper. I wonder if full sheets were distributed at all?" 

Indeed, the clue is in the corner. If you or someone you know has a copy of this Flier please send it to us here at Sasquatch Scoop. 

Now what?

It leaves us wondering who is behind this video. We may know where they are from but we don't know the who. Is this a viral marketing campaign? Is this a student prank? Is this perhaps a real Bigfoot encounter? These are the answers we are still looking for. In the meantime, I hope that what I have presented here gives some insight behind the story. Perhaps it gives further investigative clues to help determine the validity, or not, of the claim. While we are waiting for the answers, Please enjoy Phil Poling's breakdown on his ParaBreakdown channel at Youtube. 

FB/FB Admin and Rick Dyer Make More Public Statements Regarding Tent Video

 This morning I sent a list of questions to an Admin over at FB/FB regarding the tent video. The Admin was kind enough to answer those questions. The answers may or may not clear up a few issues and may bring up more questions. FB/FB's stance seems to be that this video is most likely real. I also spoke to Rick Dyer on the phone and through Facebook messages last night. Rick will not publicly state that he was involved in this video. He did offer me the following challange of sorts:

Video Still ShootingSasquatch

"I will walk away from Bigfoot give you my website if I'm ever near any hoaxes"
Rick Dyer 

I told Rick I accept that Challenge and offered him one of my own. If he can prove, with out a doubt, scientifically, any of his present or future Bigfoot evidence, then I will also walk away and turn over my blog to him.

 The questions I sent to FB/FB and their answers are as follows:

SasquatchScoop 
Who contacted who first? Was the Tent video brought to your attention or did you just happen to find it?
FB/FB 
Happened to find it we do a YT search every day for various terms. Saw it the day after it was posted.

SasquatchScoop 
Do you know the real names of those involved? I am not asking for the names just if you know them
FB/FB
No, just an incredible mass of speculation

SasquatchScoop
 If it turns out Rick Dyer is behind this what will be FB/FB's stance?
FB/FB
 Well we know it is not CGI, there is a screen between the filmer and the subject so it would have to be an elaborate suit.

It also could be real, there are ten members of the tracking group and they were filming as Kulls surmised. We now know it was filmed on. 9/6 and Dyer was kicked out/resigned on the tenth. It was posted I the 13th.

We are fairly sure the YT poster had no idea what was on the video when he posted it to YT.

SasquatchScoop 
Was FB/FB involved in this before the video was uploaded to YouTube?

FB/FB
 Absolutely no involvement, we actually would have avoided it if we had known. We made our decision based upon the head being set foreward on the body. This is a trait seen in archaic human like Homo Heidelbergensis. Other traits match Patty and the Freeman film.

Lastly, we have never spoken to Dyer, we have no idea who the poster who we have been talking to is. I will say he/she adamantly and emotionally denies any hoax.
That's about all I have for now, thanks for taking the time to consider my questions.




I asked one more follow up question:
SasquatchScoop
So you are pretty much confirming that Dyer was involved at some point? Also, can I use these statements publicly?
FB/FB
Nothing we have confirms Dyer, but possibly a member Dyer's group.

Rick Dyer Redirects Domain Names

Earlier this evening I spoke to Rick Dyer on the phone. He maintains his earlier statement that Bigfoottracker.com are not and will not be involved in hoaxing anything ever. Try as I may I could not get Rick to make any further public statement related to the current Tent Video fiasco.

I figured while I had him on the phone I would ask a few questions about another ongoing saga. Rick recently purchased two domain names related to Team Tazer Bigfoot. TeamTazer.com and TeamTazerBigfoot.com. It was discovered earlier this week that those two domains had been redirected to gay porn sites.

I asked Rick why he would do such a thing and he told me he did not do it. He stated that he had turned the passwords over to a member of Team Tazer but couldn't remember off hand who. I asked him if he still had control of the domains and he answered that he did. He agreed to redirect them back to TazerBigfoot.com Team Tazer's official page. As of the writing of this article he has redirected one of the sites back to Tazer's official page and the other just goes to a GoDaddy placeholder page.

I also asked Rick why he maintains control of the domains. He said he would turn over control of the domains if, and when, Damian Bravo makes a public apology to him regarding the Tim Fasano outing. It is my understanding that he believes Mr. Bravo accused him of teaming up with Fasano in order to hoax Bravo. He also said that if Bravo does not offer an apology then the domains may be purchased from him. Rick did not offer a selling price.

Breaking News: Rick Dyer responds to alleged Tent Video hoax

Rick Dyer standing in front of his blue and white tent

Rick Dyer has been silent since he was alleged to have been involved in the tent video hoax. Today Rick sent me the following message via Facebook in regards to the alleged hoax.

Ricks Statement:

I'm going to be clear. Bigfoottracker.com will never be involved in any kind of hoaxing whatsoever. We are unable to comment at this time. Thanks...

I have asked Rick for a more in-depth statement and will update when and if that becomes available.

FB/FB public statement concerning tent video

Enhancements by Damian Bravo

 FB/FB Just released a statement about the Tent Video controversy. They also added an enhanced version of the color video. After watching the enhanced version I am convinced it's just a guy wearing sunglasses with a biker style mustache. I see many refutable points in this statement and will be looking into it further. Notice the plug for their book at the end. FB/FB still maintains this is no hoax. Where is Rick Dyer while all of this is going on? According to his Facebook page he is in Las Vegas. 

 The statement is as folows:

Here is our FBFB statement on the "Camper Films Sasquatch with Iphone"
The best loops are at 1:30 of the video.

1. FB/FB is completely independent of the video and had nothing to do with the filming of this video. We simply produced an authentication as we have 60 times before. The firestorm that was created by the Camper video is a direct result of compelling nature of the images. ( A closeup of a human-shaped ape.) We had no idea this was possibly part of an organized effort to film a Sasquatch until after we published the authentication analysis.
2. We still maintain that it completely fits with the morphology of a Sasquatch. Large Nocturnal eyes, Heavy Brow Ridge with a cranial keel sloping backward not upward into a coned head, Hooded Nose, Long upper lip, Incredibly long spineous processes on the spine (leading to thick neck, high shoulders and consistent Auburn coloring and behavior.
3. We have no idea who took the video, although we have received maybe 50 emails, some with very interesting and some with possible confidential information. We now know it was actually filmed on Sept. 6 2012, posted on September 13th we confirmed it on September 14th when it had less than 10 views.
4. As to Steve Kulls, we like him and have appeared on his radio show. He may be correct with the group and location of the video (we don't know) but that does not mean this video is fake or a hoax.
5. The debate over Sasquatch is decades old with sides deeply entrenched. Skeptics refute everything and many researchers want "their" footage or casts or sounds to be the evidence and work against others. We know through personal experience that Sasquatch are real and it is just a matter of time before they are acknowledged.
6. Was it a hoax? Using common sense we believe it is improbable, Why would anyone produce a crappy 29 second video of the most fantastic anatomically correct suit only to film for the last 1.2 seconds... through a tent... sideways.... and then upload it without actually knowing how to even rotate the video.
7. FB/FB's mission is to curate and publish any data on the subject of the Big Fella. On September 10th we were planning on publishing a thermal that is better than this video, but there are co-owners of that video and both have to agree on release. The reason we published this video so soon was because of the frustration over the non-release. Had we any idea the firestorm this video would create.
8. Lastly the explanation of why Sasquatch exist in Florida, Ohio, Minnesota, Ontario and the PNW is far more important than any video. The Patterson Gimlin film should have been all that was necessary, unfortunately it does not fit with the out of africa theory of human development. We have attempted to explain why it is not just possible but there it is essential that there is a human-shaped ape that is strategically smarter throughout the USA. Hence why we published the book "YOU ARE A SASQUATCH" .

Did Rick Dyer Hoax FB/FB?

 As you may know, Facebook Find Bigfoot recently released a video this week with much hype and buildup. The video was in black and white and was filmed from the inside of a tent. The video allegedly showed a Sasquatch next to a tree. Almost immediately it was dismissed by a hoax by many but there were still many believers. Yesterday the original up-loader, ShootingSasquatch uploaded a color version of the same film. This is when it all started coming together.

I arrived home from work yesterday just as the video was being uploaded to Youtube. When I saw it I immediatly thought I knew who was behind it. There is no sound in the video but the text spoke volumes.

It read:

Over four years after the 2008 Sasquatch in a box hoax

Mr Kulls hasn't owned up to his part & deniability

seems to be his protocol. "Along with riding coattails"

What makes a good investigator?

Patience, persistence, integrity,

ethical, honesty and ability to wait for all evidence to present itself!

When I first read that I immediately thought about Rick Dyer. Rick likes to bring up the 2008 hoax. The statement "Along with riding coattails" is what sealed it for me. Who would say that about Steve Kulls? Rick Dyer, that's who.

I remembered that Rick had uploaded a short clip to YouTube. It was from San Antonio and it was him filming from inside his tent. I looked for the video on his channel but it was set too private. I did a Google search and found a screen capture of the video. Lo and behold, a blue and white tent, just like the one in the color version of the tent video. 

I notified a few people about what I had discovered in including Shawn Evidence. Shawn called Steve Kulls and spoke with Carl Olinselot. I was away from the computer for a while but Carl got right on it and was able to put the pictures together. Later in the evening I spoke with Steve Kulls. Steve and I seemed to be pretty comfortable with the evidence.

Although the evidence is largely circumstantial it all seems to add up. Rick announced that he was no longer going to be negative. Right after that statement he announced that he was turning operations over to an unnamed person and that a big announcement was forthcoming. Then suddenly all of Rick's YouTube videos diapered.

Right around the same time the website ShootingSasquatch.com was registered. The black and white version was uploaded. There was mention of a big announcement and press conference. The color version appears yesterday calling out Steve Kulls. 

After all of this came out last night, the color video was removed from YouTube. At the same time most of Rick's videos became public again. The timing of that seems to be odd to say the least.

Is it all a coincidence? I don't think so, but even if Rick was not involved, this video and all the hype is all a big lead-up to something else. A giant hoax? Most likely. A documentary film? Could be. Whatever it is, it is a black eye on FB/FB and those who push this kind of nonsense. 

On another note, Rick had purchased two domain names. TeamTazer.com and TeamTazerBigfoot.com. One of them was a mirror of BigfootTracker.com, Ricks website. The other was a site making fun of Team Tazer. When he announced he was going positive he redirected the sites to TazerBigfoot.com, Team Tazer Bigfoot's official page. Yesterday it was discovered that Rick had redirected both sites to gay porn sites. So much for Rick being positive.

After repeated attempts by myself and others, Rick was unable to be reached for comment regarding this issue. FB/FB has made no public statement as of yet.
Thanks to all those involved in uncovering this hoax. 

 

The color version of the tent video Copyright 2012, ShootingSasquatch.com

Carl Olinselot's photo compilation

 Credit goes to these folks, go check them out.
Team BIG Carl's Facebook group
squatchdetective.com/ Steve Kull's website
 Bigfoot Evidence

An Update From The Polygraph Examiner

 Bigfoot shooter Shooter Justin Smeja's Polygraph Examiner wanted to clear up a couple of questions. Her update is as follows:

I would like to also just let you know that some of the confusion with polygraph examiners is that the public doesn't realize many things regarding the process and most importantly the following:

There is no bureau in the state of California that regulates Polygraph Examiners therefore, there is no actual monitoring of the conduct, practices or conditions that a polygraph will be held under law to follow.This is unfortunate however this also means that there is NO association in California that can legally qualify or deny that an examiner is or isn't  a qualified or "a member in good standing". Please don't take this wrong; I do everything morally and ethically in my business as a trained experienced professional but to clear up the questions regarding the fact that an examiner is only a qualified examiner if a member with an associates is completely not a fact. All these "Associations" consist of are a group of people who collect money from any person they can get to pay for membership and when they join, they then become "a member in good standing".

In addition, there is one main factor that is a must for an examiner and that is that you must be a certified or licensed polygraph examiner to purchase the equipment which proves and verifies to the manufacturer that you have been properly trained to use and operate the instrument.

Such as when a doctor wants to purchase an EKG machine, he must show his/her credentials because an untrained person cannot just go out monitoring heart conditions and giving results without knowing how to use or read the instrument.

Thought this might clarify some confusion!

Respectfully,

Jeanne Hobbs

Justin Smeja Polygraph Examiner Interview

 In my last Article I raised some question as to the validity of Justin Smeja's Polygraph test based on what I discovered about the examiner. Some of my conclusions were wrong some were right. Jeanne Hobbs, the examiner, was kind enough to address the questions I had about Justin's test and her background. I had reported that Jeanne was associated with a Mr. John L. Grogan, Jeanne denies this is the case and has some very strong words about Mr. Grogan. She has provided some links in this interview that I invite you to check out regarding Mr. Grogan. I am removing the original article, it will be replaced with a link to this one. If you have questions about Mr. Grogan please check the links Jeanne provides.

What we got wrong:

We contended that Jeanne had dealings with John L. Grogan. Jeanne denies having any association with Mr. Grogan.

Jeanne does not own NorCalPolygraph.com, however she does own NorCal Polygraph the physical business.

  

What we got right:

We stated that Jeanne was not a member of CAPE ( The California Association Of Polygraph Examiners), she is not a member.

What we are still unsure of:

Jeanne did not say where she recieved her training. Since she says she has no association with John L. Grogan we must assume it was not from his "Polygraph Academy In A Box". or www.polygraphacademy.com.

Below is the Interview with Jeanne. Her answers are in red. The questions and answers have not been changed in any way.

In the Bigfoot Lunch club article by Guy Edwards you stated that there were 40 questions asked but only 17 show on the report, why is that? 

EVERY CHART IS FORMULATED TO HAVE 10 QUESTIONS. 4 ARE KNOW TRUTHS, 2 ARE KNOWN LIES AND 4 ARE RELAVENT QUESTIONS. EACH CHART HAD 4 RELAVANT QUESTIONS. IT TOOK 40 QUESTIONS AND 10 CHARTS TO GET THE 17 QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

Who actually hired you to do the testing, what date did they originally contact you and what date was the test performed?  

RO CONTACTED ME AND I DID THE POLYGRAPH ON SATURDAY

What was your reaction when told that this test was being performed to determine whether or not Justin shot one or more Bigfoot or Bigfoot type creatures? 

 DOESN'T MATTER TO ME WHAT THE QUESTIONS MY CLIENT HAS, I JUST GET PAID TO ASK THE QUESTIONS MY CLIENT WANTS TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT. I DON'T CARE OR HAVE ANY PERSONAL OPIONION ON THIER MATTER.

What was your impression of Justin before the test? 

 I AM NOT A COUNSELOR, I DON'T DRAW A PERSONAL OPINION....MY INSTRUMENT MEASURE MY SUBJECTS BODY SENSITIVITIES AND THEN ARE SCORED...PERIOD

Industry standards say that questions should be asked no less than 3 times, was this done with Justin? 

YES

Did anyone ask you to make the results "look positive"?  

ABOSOLUTELY NOT...I HAVE NEVER MET THESE PEOPLE IN MY LIFE AND WOULD NEVER COMPRIMISE MYSELF OR MY PROFESSION TO FALSIFY AN EXAM.

You Stated in The Bigfoot Lunch Club interview that you worked for a private investigator before becoming a polygraph examiner. Was that PI Mr. John L Grogan?

NO ABOSOLUTELY NOT! THE FOLLOWING IS WHAT I HAVE TO REPORT ON JOHN GROGAN! ENOUGH SAID AND I DON'T FEEL I NEED TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE PERSONALLY EXCEPT THE FACT THAT JOHN GROGAN STOLE MY NAME ALSO, WHEN I OPENED MY BUSINESS JUST AS HE HAS DONE WITH MANY MANY OTHER POLYGRAPH EXAMINERS ACROSS THE NATION. FOLLOW THE FOLLOWING LINKS AND YOU WILL KNOW EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT JOHN L. GROGAN:

www.polygraphplace.com/articles/issue142.htm

http://podcast.971freefm.com/klsx1/956464.mp3

http://podcast.971freefm.com/klsx1/956500.mp3

www.theneonlobster.com/blog/liar-liar-lie-detector

www.ripoffreport.com/.../john...grogan.../john-l-grogan-peoa-polygraph

www.topix.com/forum/nascar/tony.../TP01FEOMA9O7B9SHR

In my research I found a testimonial given by you on a website known as

www.polygraphacademy.com. Your testimonial is as follows:

"If you want to become a trained Polygraph Examiner sooner than all the
students at the distant academies, get the extensive "Polygraph Academy in a Box".

Honestly, I looked into several training programs that were very expensive
and took several months to complete. None had all the coverage I was looking for.
Instead, I went with the PolygraphAcademy.com package-- it was exhaustively
thorough and very detailed. It is the kind of materials that teach you all
that you need to know in order to be a competent examiner, quickly
and completely, without wasting your time in long class sessions where they
spend much of their time on non-essential time-wasting matters.

Is it true that the package commonly referred to as “Polygraph Academy In A Box’ is not a traditional course and carries no accreditation from any of the major governing bodies dealing with polygraph examination? 

 I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT JOHN GROGAN IS UP TO WITH HIS SCAMS & HE USES PEOPLES NAMES TO POST TESTIMONIALS WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION

Isn’t it true that John L. Grogan operates

www.PolygraphAcademy.com as well as many other websites? 

YES HE BUYS DOMAINS THAT RESEMBLE EVERYBODY WHO OPENS A POLYGRAPH BUSINESS

　

Ro Sahebi stated on his pod cast that you were a member of CAPE however you are not listed on the CAPE website an a member in good standing. Why is that?

CAPE CHARGES SEVERAL HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS A YEAR TO BE A MEMBER OF THEIR "ASSOCIATION" WHICH BRINGS NO PROFIT OR GAIN TO A POLYGRAPH EXAMINER. THEIR IS NO "MEMEBER IN GOOD STANDING" REGULAITON OR CONDITIONAL REASON FOR A POLGRAPH EXAMINER TO PAY MONEY FOR NOTHING IN RETURN. CAPE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR A POLYGRAPH EXAMINER EXCEPT TAKE THEIR MONEY. THEIR ASSOCIATION MEANS NOTHING TO US.

Ro also mentioned that you were a member of PEOA. My research shows that the PEOA was organized by John L. Grogan, is this true? 

 Jeanne did not answer this question

　

Have you had any other verifiable polygraph training? 

 I AM NO LONGER AN MEMBER OF ANY ASSOCIATION BECAUSE THEY DO NOTHING BUT TAKE MONEY FROM MEMEBERS. THEIR ARE NO BENEFITS FOR BEING A MEMEBER OFTHEIR ASSOCIATION. YES JOHN L. GROGAN DOES RUN PEOA AND JUST STEALS MONEY FROM HIS MEMBERS AND IF YOU ARE AN ASSOCIATED MEMEBER YOU HAVE TO PAY JOHN GROGAN $95.00 FOR EVERY POLYGRAPH YOU PERFORM AND PAY IT TO HIM DIRECTLY. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH JOHN L. GROGAN. AGAIN PLEASE READ THE LINKS I HAVE ATTACHED. AND AGAIN CAPE IS NOTHING BUT ANOTHER ASSOCIATION THAT JUST TAKE MONEY FROM MEMEBERS AND DOES NOTHING FOR THEM. I AM INDEPENDANT AND DON'T NEED TO PAY FOR RUNNING A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS. .

Since CAPE requires you to have gone to an APA (American Polygraph Association) acredited  school, you can not be a member of CAPE, is this true?

 CAPE IS NOTING AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY REQUIRE FOR MEMEBERSHIP EXCEPT THAT THEY CHARGE A LOT OF MONEY TO BE A MEMEBER AND REQUIRE NOTHING EXCEPT MONEY TO JOIN

Do you own or work for NorCal Polygraph?

 YES I OWN NORCAL POLYGRAPH

Isn’t it true that NorCal Polygraph is one of Mr. John L. Grogan’s companies?

 ABSOLUTELY NOT...HE STOLE MY DOMAIN AND THAT WHAT HE DOES WITH ALL POLYGRAPH EXAMINERS ACROSS THE NATION... AGAIN READ THE LINKS!

According to the BBB, Mr. Grogan’s company Gold Star Investigations received an “F” rating. In that report it also lists www.polygraphacademy.com, can you explain this? 

READ THE LINKS I SENT

Also according to the BBB, Companies offering Private Investigator or Private Patrol services are required to be licensed with the Bureau of Security and Investigative Services of the California Department of Consumer Affairs. As of our last verification on October 18, 2007, this company's Bureau of Security and Investigative Services (BSIS) license and firearm permit license were revoked by the Department of Consumer Affairs (DCA) in 2003 due to regulatory actions.

Is the above statement from the BBB true? If True how do you explain this.

 CONTACT THE BUREAU, THIS ISN'T MY COMPANY

Isn’t it true that Mr. Grogan never completed any polygraph examiner course at any accredited school, instead only receiving an “honorary” degree? 

I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT JOHN GROGAN AND REFUSE TO COMMENT ON MY PERSONAL OPINION..... GOOGLE HIM, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND

There were several other questions dealing with Jeanne's association with Mr. Grogan, Jeanne did not answer any more of these kind of questions I have omitted these questions for that reason. She maintains that she has no association with Grogan.

Can Bigfoot Shooter Justin Smeja's Polygraph Be Trusted?

Photo by Ro Sahebi

Editors note: Due to some inaccuracies on our part we have decided to remove this article. Please refer to our Interview with Jeanne Hobbs, Justin Smeja's Polygraph Examiner. The interview can be found here: 
 http://sasquatchscoop.blogspot.com/2012/08/justin-smeja-polygraph-examiner.html

Real Bigfoot Evidence To Be Released Monday From Tim Fasano

Tim Fasano claims in his latest YouTube video that he has compelling evidence that the Florida Skunk Ape, a.k.a. Bigfoot, does indeed exist. He will be releasing this evidence on Monday (08/20/2012).  Tim say's that he will be releasing an 11 minute video, the first few seconds of which will show proof of the elusive creature. Tim says that this will be the first in a "Shock and Awe" series of releases. We will report on just what the evidence is on Monday after it's release.

Rob Fairless Announcement: No More Whisperer Videos

It is with a heavy heart that I must report the following story. This message was posted today in The Bigfoot Whisperer Fan Page on Facebook from Rob Fairless:

Rob Fairless

I would like to announce that there will not be ANY more Bigfoot Whisperer videos ever again. So you can delete this page or whatever. I appreciate everyone who was nice to me and enjoyed my videos. I have a family you see. When people start talking about my family I take that SERIOUSLY. So to the cowards who do that, you won this time. I will continue to focus on my weekly radio show and learn to get better with that but thats it. Thanks again.

It is one thing to criticize someone when you don't agree with them, but it is going to far when you drag that person's family through the mud. As the Administrator for the fan page I will do as Rob wishes. I have sent him a message and asked him what he wishes to do from here. Rob, I wish you the best of luck with your radio show and whatever else you do in the future.

Rob's show can be found here: What's Up Bigfoot

UPDATE: The Bigfoot Whisperer Fan Page will officially cease to exist as of midnight 08/13/2012

Rick Dyer Reports Justin Smeja To The California DFG

In Rick Dyer's latest video he explains how he has contacted the California Department of Fish and Game and reported Justin Smeja and the alleged Bigfoot shootings. In a previous article, I asked Justin if he had been contacted by any authorities. Justin stated that  the DFG did not seem interested but that they had been to his residence. Dyer stated that the DFG will open a full investigation. It seems now that Rick is a California citizen, he feels it is his duty to report Smeja. Here is Rick's video.

Robert Fairless, The Bigfoot Whisperer - A Change Of Heart

I pride myself on reporting the facts. Factual evidence is the most important thing in proving the existence of Bigfoot or any other cryptid. Sometimes there is more to the story than just the facts. I recently published two articles on Robert Fairless, The Bigfoot Whisperer. Those articles were strictly based on the facts.  I neglected to look into the man himself. I have now spoken with Rob on a few occasions and have had a revelation! Rob is a good guy, he is out to have a little fun and that’s it. My facts pointed in the direction of a possible hoaxer, a guy making a mockery of real researchers, or someone out to simply gain fame. None of those things seem to really be the case. Rob wants to be taken seriously just like any other researcher but he also wants to have a little fun doing so, I see no problem with that.

Tim Mitchell with his "Spirit Stick"

Dr. Fairless, (his title is actually Rev. Dr.) is one of the nicest guys in Bigfoot research today. He took time out of his schedule to make one of his famous “Bigfoot Spirit Sticks” for a Facebook user and Ohio Bigfoot Hunter, Tim Mitchell, and even paid the shipping. No charge to the recipient. Who does that in today’s economy? Rob has offered to make a spirit stick for anyone who asks.

Rob’s videos are just what we need in the sometimes stuffy world of Bigfoot research. We need someone who pokes a little fun at our methods and the sometimes ridiculous stuff that people claim as evidence. There is defiantly a place for a guy like this in the Bigfoot community. Dr. Fairless provides us with an escape from all the drama and infighting that goes on.

Many in the Bigfoot community looked at Fairless with a critical eye at first, myself included. The trend is changing. Rob has picked up many new supporters, some of which were very critical at the start. Once those folks “got the joke” it all became clear. We all laughed at the South Park parody of Finding Bigfoot (except for maybe Bobo) and we can all laugh along with Rob as well. I, for one, have become a huge fan.

Rob also does some serious research. Take a look at his video of Zack and his mother, they are real witnesses telling a real story. Rob promises to follow up with these witnesses.

Just one last note: Dr. Fairless, I realize that you and I got off on the wrong foot. I have at least in some way soiled your reputation. I apologize for that. What ever it takes to help remedy that in the future is what I will do. You have picked up at least one new fan and I hope that there are many more to come. Some still “have an eye on you” but I believe you will win them over as well.

The Bigfoot Whisperer videos can be found on Youtube under AlienInformation. Rob’s blog can be found at www.thebigfootwhisperer.com.
Steve

Rick Dyer speaks about Justin Smeja, Team Tazer , Shawn Evidence and his Tracker truck

Tim, a reader of my Blog and a Facebook friend of mine asked me to see if I could ask Rick Dyer a few short questions. Since I believe in going straight to the source I decided to message Rick through Facebook. Rick responded the next day in his typical fashion, he has also posted a video of his responses to my questions.

The first question I had for him was about the sighting of his Bigfoot Tracker SUV at a car lot in Antlers, Oklahoma. I asked :

Shawn reported that your Bigfoot tracker truck was seen at a car lot in Oklahoma, is it really for sale there? If not why is it there?

Rick responded by saying:

I have had many Bigfoot tracking trucks. I sold a wrecked one on eBay a Mercedes Ml sun 4X4. In Ok.I have 6 trucks 1 rv diesel pusher and 2 pull trailers now. 


Past trucks that I have sold are
2004 Volvo cross country fire damage
2000 Mercedes ml wrecked.

I then asked him about the Lie Detector tests that he claims to have purchased. Some folks were confused and asked me to clear up whether he bought these to do an interview with Justin Smeja. Rick says that they have nothing to do with Justin at all. The question for Rick was:

A reader of my blog requested that I ask you about the lie detector. He wanted to know if Justin agreed to take the test. 

To which Rick responds:

Justin is a nobody..just listen to his 1st interview with skulls ...no lie detector needed....get real.
I never offered him to take a test. I do have one now..but not for him..

Finaly, Rick claims to have spoken to a member of Justin’s family and that the result of that conversation is that Justin is lying. Justin claims that Dyer has never spoken to any member of his family. The question was asked like this:

Justin also claims you are lying when you say you talked to his family. Whats your response to that?

Rick says:

I did talk with a member of hIs family. After skulls interview. (Editors note: I believe he is referring to the Kulls interview)

Mr. Dyer decided to add this tidbit about Team Tazer and Shawn Evidence, I did not ask him about this.

Shawn is in with tazer Bigfoot and Justin... he picks what he puts on ..nothing to make them look bad

Rick Dyer can be found on Youtude under the username RDYER678. Rick's website is www.BigfootTracker.com.

This is the Steve Kulls interview Dyer is refering to.

Justin Smeja answers a few more questions

After watching Ro Sahebi’s interview with Justin Smeja (I killed Bigfoot-an interview with Justin Smeja) I had a few questions. Mr. Smeja was kind enough to answer my questions. I didn’t want to ask the same things that were already addressed by Justin, but wanted to fill in a few of the details that I thought were important to help understand the story better. This is by no means groundbreaking but I hope that it helps in the debate. Whether or not you believe the story, it is very intriguing. These questions are exactly the way I asked them and Justin's responses are the exact way he answered them. Ro's interview is posted at the end of this article. If you have not seen it please watch.

(Sasquatch Scoop) I read all 57 pages of your original thread on Taxedermy.net, in the first post that you mention the shootings you refer to the creature as an odd looking bear. Why was that?

(Justin) i really wasnt sure what the reaction would be when i said hey guys i shot a bigfoot i was more easing into it. ''i shot a bf'' sounds pretty retarted when you say it outloud. i was with a friend and he introduced me to his extended family as a guy who shot two of them last year. i couldnt keep a straight face i was more or less simply embarrassed.

(Sasquatch Scoop) In Ro Sahebi's interview with you , you said that after you shot the young one that your buddy came down over the hill. Did you know his location before shooting the young one? I ask this because hunters usualy are aware of the location of their hunting partners before shooting.

(Justin) yes I knew aprox other hunters location and had a very safe background.

(Sasquatch Scoop) . What was the sex of the young one? I don't believe this has been discussed before.

(Justin) For whatever reason I've been asked not to discuss that part of it. something about an nda.

(Sasquatch Scoop) At first, I believe, it was said that the adult was female and now it is said that the adult is male. What made you think it was female? Does the DNA prove it is male?

(Justin) same

(Sasquatch Scoop) I heard somewhere that you saw a Game warden just before the shooting, is that true?

(Justin) Not just before the shooting early in the day. theres one way in and another way out. that area is notorious for having road blocks and check points and wardens checking people at the entrances.

(Sasquatch Scoop) Why would you openly discuss something that could potentialy land you in jail or get you a big fine if proven true?

(Justin)  I’m not worried about it. after all i made a few efforts to work with dfg on this and they have declined to get ved

(Sasquatch Scoop) Have you been contacted by any authorities? (Police, Fish and Game, or others). I've discussed it with wardens and the sheriffs office.

(Justin) dfg made a visit to my house. they simply have no interest in this.

(Sasquatch Scoop) Are you under any type of gag order or any non disclosure agreement from the ketchum study? more or less.

 (Justin) i signed an nda that said i couldnt discuss results but i've been giving none to discuss so we are all safe there.

(Sasquatch Scoop) Mr. Sahebi and you were drinking during the interview, did that have any influance on what you said?

(Justin) most everybody will say more when they've had some courage juice. i've tried to be as honest as possible when i talk about what happened i have told the story so many times i have no attachment emotionally to anything that happened, i'm num to it and I think most anybody would be when they have talked about something over and over again.

(Sasquatch Scoop) How do you explain the diffrence in apperance between the adult and young one? Has this been explained by the DNA people or any one else?

(Justin) Thats one of my main problems with my story. i try to look at it objectively often so i can see what others are hearing when they are listening to me talk or write. that i simply have no answer for. i'm as puzzled as anyone on that account. hopefully soon i can make some time in my schedule to converse with the artist who did those and we can work on some more sketches.

(Sasquatch Scoop) Do you have anything to add that you have not said before?

(Justin) Justin did not answer this question.




Please visit Ro's webpage www.thebigfootreport.com, you can also find him on Youtube at thebigfootreport. every Sunday night Ro, along with Michael Merchant (SnowWalkerPrime), Shawn Evidence, Damion Bravo and other members of Team Tazer Bigfoot, can be heard on Extinct? the podcast begining at 6pm Eastern.

AlienInformation and Rob Fairless are the same - PROOF

This is a follow up to our previous post about Rob Fairless. Sometimes when we investigate something we forget the most obvious sources. It occured to me that alot of folks have Facebook accounts. Mr. Fairless is no exception. One thing alot of folks do is post every little thing they ever do on Facebook, while I can't say that Rob does that, I can say that he does post things that can be used to substaniate the claims I made in my previous post. If you recall, I reported that it seemed that the Youtube channel AlienInformation and Mr. Fairless were one in the same. Upon checking out his Facebook page I found this post:

Mr. Fairless did see my article and says I only speculated about my findings. He is right, the article was mostly speculation. The facts were pointing in the right direction but I did not have any solid proof, that is until I found this post, also on his timeline:

So my facts were right and no longer speculation. The post backs up every claim I made in my original article. With this piece of evidence it only opens up more questions like why would he mislead folks into believing that he and AlienInformation were seperate entities? Why would he originaly say that a film student uploaded the vocalizations and then claim he did? Perhaps he believes this adds to his credibility although I believe it has an opposite effect. So what is Mr. Fairless's motivation? It can be summed up best by him in the following post:

Or maybe in this post:

My intention here is not to bash Rob. He may well be an expert tracker. My only intention is to bring out the facts. On another blog I issued Mr. Fairless a chalange, bring forth one well respected researcher who can back his claims. If he has really been doing this for 23 years and is world renowned as he claims it shouldn't be very hard to do that.

Steve
07/09/2012

Who is The Bigfoot Whisperer: Rob Fairless

Recently the Youtube channel ALIENINFORMATION uploaded a video of Bigfoot vocalizations allegedly recorded by a film student. After about a week ALIENINFORMATION stated on their video that they were lied to and the recording actually belonged to Rob Fairless. Upon releasing this information they made amends to Mr. Fairless by making them their Bigfoot investigator. Rob now goes by the moniker “The Bigfoot Whisperer”. Rob claims to have over 23 years in the field of Bigfoot research and calls himself  a Master Bigfoot Tracker  (reminds me of Rick Dyer’s claims). All of this got us here at SasquatchScoop thinking, just who is Rob Fairless and how did he become The Bigfoot Whisperer?

At SasquatchScoop we always start out by looking into the background information on the subject of our articles. A quick Google search usually is a good starting point. If you type in “Rob Fairless” in Google the first bit of information you find is that he is a musician. Rob and his cousin Randy Ashby have a band called  2 Nervous Guys, they are a country band and their stuff is pretty good. Next we find that Rob is from the small town of Karnak, Illinois. Karnak is a small town and as of the 2000 census had less than 700 residents. Rob has his own Youtube channel, ROBFAIRLESS. Most of what is uploaded to his channel is his musical related stuff but he and Randy have a couple of paranormal videos uploaded as well.
Deeper searches on Rob prove to be more interesting. Rob once called himself “The Unofficial Mayor Of Karnak”. He would upload videos to his Youtube channel that were fake news stories from his town. Some of those stories were pretty interesting and funny. Rob also has a FaceBook page known as The Unofficial Mayor Of Karnak although it doesn’t seem to be updated any more, nor does he seem to be uploading those type of videos to his channel and all the previous videos have been removed.

What we couldn’t understand is how ALIENINFORMATION decides to make Rob their Bigfoot researcher after a simple mistake of giving credit to the wrong person for the recording. A closer look at the ALIENINFORMATION channel provided a clue. Most of the videos on that channel just happen to be from southern Illinois, and even more odd is that a lot of those videos are from Karnak. So, Rob is from Karnak and ALIENINFORMATION reports on events from the same area. It is my contention that ALIENINFORMATION and Rob Fairless are one in the same, or at the very least, it is run by his cousin Randy, or a friend or another family member. To further corroborate this claim I looked even closer at Rob’s channel and the  ALIENINFORMATION channel. ALIENINFORMATION uploaded the video of the vocalizations less than 2 weeks ago. The claim that it belonged to Rob and not a film student came about 1 week ago. Rob had subscribed to ALIENINFORMATION’s channel about 1 month ago. In other words, Rob was a subscriber to the channel well before the video was uploaded, in fact he was one of the very first subscribers if not the first. In addition to that he had made comments on some of the uploaded videos. Here is his comment on the oldest video on their channel:

This is the most original ufo channel in the world. REAL OR FAKE IT DON'T MATTER. THIS CHANNEL IS AWESOME robfairless 1 month ago.

Rob went on to make the same statement on other videos as well.

One more look at Rob’s own channel shows that his paranormal videos are not what they appear to be. Rob seems to be poking fun at those who do this type of research. He has a cheap old tape recorder in which to capture EVP’s. At one point the claims that a demon is saying “Peanut Butter” and another point something about a garage door, all the while chuckling and laughing.
In conclusion, it appears that Rob is not a Bigfoot researcher at all, he is nothing more than a satirist. He is out to make fun and nothing more. We are not (at this point) calling him a hoaxer, but we we are passing along this information to those who may consider taking this guy seriously.


Steve
SasquatchScoop
7/04/2012

What Fasano's Game Camera Really Photographed

May 30, 2012
Tim Fasano released a series of game cam photos earlier today. Mr. Fasano claims that he captured a Skunk Ape or Bigfoot (or the lion from the wizard of oz) looking at a deer. Upon zooming in to take a closer look, it seems that he may have been mistaken. It appears that the photos show nothing more than a fern and some leaves or other foliage. The fern seems to be behind the tree in the background while the leaves seem to be behind the closer tree.  Tim Fasano can be found on Youtube under the user names fasanotampa and seminoleproject he also has a website seminoleproject.com where he released these photos.

This photo belongs to Tim Fasano, it is used here for educational purposes only

Breaking News: Hovey Photo Is Not The Abominable Costume.

On February 23rd 2012 Melissa Hovey, President of the American Bigfoot Society, released a photo of an alleged Sasquatch (see photo below). Since the photos release it has been the subject of much controversy. Recently it has been suggested  that the photo is an image of the costume used in the 2006 movie Abominable. While there are many resemblances to the costume from the movie it is almost defiantly not the same as what is depicted in the ABS photo. I arrived at this conclusion by careful investigation of the facts. I have spent many hours contacting the people who were involved in the making of the film.

Melissa Hovey's photo

First a little background on the movie Abominable: 

Released in April of 2006 by Red Circle Productions

Directed by: Ryan Schifrin

Written by: Ryan Schifrin and James Morrison

Produced by: Donna Cockrell, Theresa Eastman Schifrin (as Theresa Eastman), Paul Spadone , and  Duane Trow

Key Costumer: Angela Tinsley

Special effects suit fabricator: Tinsley Transfers  

Creature effects coordinator:  Christien Tinsley

Creature designer and story board artist: Federico D'Alessandro 

I first contacted Mr. Federico D'Alisandro since he was listed as the creature designer. The email I sent to him is as follows.:

According to IMDB.com you were the creature designer for the 2006 Movie
Abominable. There is some debate about a recently released photo of  an alleged sasquatch. Some are saying it is the suit from that film. I would like to inquire as to what is your opinion on this. Thank you for
your time. Please see attached photo.

Mr. D'Alessandro was kind enough to reply to me with this response:

Abominable Costume

Unfortunately I didn't see the suit in person when I worked on that movie.
As a big believer in the existence of Sasquatch, I hope it's not a suit,
though I would question how the photographer got so close to the creature,
why its back is turned to the camera when it's that close, and why there
appears to be a big light shining on it (appears to be something stronger
than a flashlight).

Sorry I can't be of more help

best
Federico

I sent a subsequent email to Mr. D'Alisandro explaining to him how the photo allegedly was obtained and asking him who else I should contact in this matter, He replied with the name and email address of the director Ryan Schifrin. After several attempts to contact the director I decided to contact the producers, all of my emails went unanswered. The production company also never returned my emails. I was given a name by a user in a Facebook group of one of the puppeteers and the company that he works for. I was unable to find contact information for the puppeteer but I was able to contact the company he works for, Tinsley Transfers. Tinsley Transfers is owned by Christien Tinsley and was involved in the special effects of the movie and were also the suit fabricator. I sent a message to Tinsley Transfers and it was as follows:

 According to IMDB.com you worked on the 2006 movie Abominable. Recently a photo of an alleged Sasquatch was released by The American Bigfoot Society. Questions have come up about it's authenticity and that it may possibly be the costume from the film. Attached is the photo in question. I would like to know your opinion on this. Is this from the movie or from any other movie that you are familiar with? If it is your costume would you consider providing production stills of the costume? Any help in this matter is appreciated and thank you for your time.

Their answer was short and sweet:

Sorry to say, this photo did not come from us.

Just to make sure I understood just who looked at the photo I asked the following question:

Thank you for your quick response! If I may ask, did Mr. Tinsley view the photo? If it is not his work does he have an idea who may have done it? 

Again they responded with a short answer but one which should put the question to rest:

He did, and we are all stumped.

So according to Mr. Tinsley's company, the suit fabricators for the film Abominable, it is not their suit and they don't seem to know who's suit it could be. Their words were not many but they speak volumes. If it were their suit they would not be stumped. This does not answer the question as to if it is a suit or not , just that it is not the Abominable suit.

Steve Alcorn
SasquatchScoop.com

Sasquatch Scoop, Your Newest Bigfoot News Blog

Welcome to Sasquatch Scoop. This is an endeavor to make available a Bigfoot news blog that is both factual and at the same time entertaining. So many of the other Bigfoot blogs out there are based mainly on the writers opinions rather than fact. This blog will only represent the facts. I may in time have an opinion section where I share my thoughts, but the news section will never be opinion based. My only agenda is to bring the facts about Bigfoot to light and to promote the knowledge of the creature.

Currently I am working on a story that should be published in the next few days. This story is an attempt to enlighten folks on a recent controversy in the Bigfoot field of research. When all my contacts have responded I will then publish the story. I have been in contact with many of the key players and it should turn out to be a good article.

Sasquatch Scoop